All Discussions Tagged 'Su-27' - Model Airplane Collectors2024-03-29T00:20:13Zhttp://www.modelairplanecollectors.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=Su-27&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAir Forces owning both Su-27 and MiG-29tag:www.modelairplanecollectors.com,2013-10-13:6343803:Topic:1451342013-10-13T20:33:12.954ZAMhttp://www.modelairplanecollectors.com/profile/AhmedMisbah
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US">I was interested to find out which air forces around the world own both Russian 4rth generation fighters, the Su-27 Flanker and MiG-29 Fulcrum. I found out that 4 air forces own both fighters, one of which is an air force of an Arab state (Eritrean Air Force) and three ex-Soviet states (Russian Air Force, Ukrainian Air Defense Force and Kazakh Air and…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">I was interested to find out which air forces around the world own both Russian 4rth generation fighters, the Su-27 Flanker and MiG-29 Fulcrum. I found out that 4 air forces own both fighters, one of which is an air force of an Arab state (Eritrean Air Force) and three ex-Soviet states (Russian Air Force, Ukrainian Air Defense Force and Kazakh Air and Air Defense Forces).</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869024716?profile=original"><img width="500" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869024716?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" width="500"/></a><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><strong>Su-27 (left) and MiG-29 (right)</strong></span></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a target="_blank" href="http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/58884401.jpg"><img class="align-center" src="http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/58884401.jpg?width=500" width="500"/></a></span><strong>Su-27 (left) and MiG-29 (right)</strong></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">The Su-27 and MiG-29 were designed to perform different roles. Su-27 is an air superiority/multirole fighter designed to have the range to penetrate deep into enemy territory and strike and outmatch enemy aircraft, such as the F-15, with its long range radar and armament and its superior performance and maneuverability.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">The MiG-29 on the other hand is also an air superiority/multirole fighter designed to operate from front-line bases. It is also designed to be a cheaper and smaller fighter than the Su-27 (so as to be produced in large numbers), with less range, armament radar range and performance. The MiG-29 can be considered the answer to the American F-16 and F-18.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a target="_blank" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Serbian_mig-29_missiles.jpg"><img class="align-center" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Serbian_mig-29_missiles.jpg?width=500" width="500"/></a></span><strong>MiG-29 Fulcrum</strong></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">When an air force has both these fighters in its inventory, it indicates that its doctrine allows for missions that can be satisfied by both aircraft according to their characteristics. Let us now take a look at each air force and see why its own both fighters:</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><em><span class="font-size-3"><strong><span xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">1- Russian Air Force:</span></strong></span></em></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><em><span class="font-size-3"><strong><span xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a target="_blank" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Flag_of_the_Air_Force_of_the_Russian_Federation.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_Air_Force_of_the_Russian_Federation.svg.png"><img class="align-left" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Flag_of_the_Air_Force_of_the_Russian_Federation.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_Air_Force_of_the_Russian_Federation.svg.png?width=200" width="200"/></a></span></strong></span></em></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">It makes perfect sense that the country that designed and produced the MiG-29 and Su-27 would actually OWN them. The Russian Air Force is the largest and oldest operator of both fighters since their introduction in the 1980s, with a total number of 289 MiG-29s and 355 Su-27s currently in service.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><em><strong><span class="font-size-4"><span xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a target="_blank" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Emblem_of_Eritrea_(or_argent_azur).svg/401px-Emblem_of_Eritrea_(or_argent_azur).svg.png"><img class="align-left" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Emblem_of_Eritrea_(or_argent_azur).svg/401px-Emblem_of_Eritrea_(or_argent_azur).svg.png?width=200" width="200"/></a></span></span></strong></em></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">The Eritrean Air Force saw a great expansion during the Eritrean-Ethiopian War. It acquired MiG-29s as an answer to Ethiopia’s purchase of the Su-27. The Su-27s were later acquired in 2003, most probably because the <em><span style="font-style: normal;">Eritreans lost 4 MiG-29s to</span></em> Ethiopian <em><span style="font-style: normal;">Su-27s between 1999 and 2000, which proved that the MiGs were no match for the Sukhois and needed to be complimented by more powerful fighters.</span></em></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><em><span style="font-style: normal;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">The Eritrean Air Force currently owns 18 MiG-29s and 16 Su-27s.</span></em></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><em><span style="font-style: normal;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a target="_blank" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6izHM7-NzcQ/S2lRZeANm0I/AAAAAAAAAU4/iwzuJQ4w3eA/s400/Google+Satalite+of+Eritrea+Air+force.jpg"><img class="align-center" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6izHM7-NzcQ/S2lRZeANm0I/AAAAAAAAAU4/iwzuJQ4w3eA/s400/Google+Satalite+of+Eritrea+Air+force.jpg"/></a></span></em></span><strong>Images from Google Earth showing parked Eritrean AF Su-27s and a MiG-29</strong></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">I couldn’t obtain information on when the Ukraine acquired MiG-29s and Su-27s. But I am assuming that both fighters were inherited from the Soviet Air Force when the USSR was dissolved.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">The Ukrainian Air Defense Force currently operates 80 MiG-29s and 36 Su-27s. According to Wikipedia, the Ukrainian Air Defense Force plans to buy newer MiG-29s and Su-27s from Russian to modernize their air force. However, due to lack of funding, it is expected that they will continue modernizing existing fighters until a budget is allocated.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span class="font-size-3"><em><strong><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">4- Kazakh Air and Air Defense Forces:</span></strong></em></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><em><span class="font-size-4"><strong><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a target="_blank" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Kazakhstan_AF_roundel.svg/630px-Kazakhstan_AF_roundel.svg.png"><img class="align-left" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Kazakhstan_AF_roundel.svg/630px-Kazakhstan_AF_roundel.svg.png?width=200" width="200"/></a></span></strong></span></em></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">Again, I couldn’t obtain information on when Kazakhstan acquired MiG-29s and Su-27s, but it seems that both fighters were purchased well after the resolution of the USSR. Kazakh Air and Air Defense Forces currently operate 39 MiG-29s and 26 Su-27s.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">In comparison with the MiG-29 and Su-27, 4 air forces own their western counter parts, the F-15 Eagle, F-16 Falcon and F-18 Hornet. Those air forces are the United States Air Force (though it currently does not operate the F-16), Israeli Air Force, Japanese Air Self-Defense Force and Republic of Korea Air Force. The total number could have risen to 5 if the US approved Egypt’s request in 2002 to acquire F-15E Strike Eagles to serve with its large number of F-16s (240 fighters). However, this sale was banned after Israel provided evidence that the Egyptians considered Israel as the “enemy” in of Egypt’s military exercises (obviously, a peace accord doesn’t make an enemy a friend in an instant).</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US">Speaking of models, I own a couple of models for both fighters. I own 4 models for the Su-27 and its derivatives (Su-30, Su-35 and Su-37) and 3 models for the MiG-29.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;" xml:lang="EN-US" lang="EN-US"><a width="737" height="552" target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869025445?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"><img width="737" height="552" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869025445?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a></span><strong>Witty Sky Guardian Su-27 Flanker scale 1:72</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><a width="737" height="552" target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869025834?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"><img width="737" height="552" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869025834?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a><strong>Gaincorp Su-30MK Flanker C scale 1:72</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><a width="737" height="552" target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869026010?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"><img width="737" height="552" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869026010?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a><strong>Altaya Su-35 (initially known as Su-27M) scale 1:72</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><a width="737" height="552" target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869026272?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"><img width="737" height="552" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869026272?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a><strong>Maisto Tailwinds Su-37 Terminator (Flanker F)</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><a width="737" height="552" target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869026557?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"><img width="737" height="552" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869026557?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a><strong>Witty Sky Guardian MiG-29 Fulcrum scale 1:72</strong></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" class="ecxMsoNormal"><a width="737" height="552" target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869026715?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"><img width="737" height="552" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2869026715?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a><strong>Witty Sky Guardian MiG-29AS scale 1:144</strong></p>
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